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Hi - BikeCAD is no longer loading for me so I can't access my designs. On Chrome it won't load and on IE it is too slow to do anything. Is the site down?

Free version

I noticed you've been using the free version of BikeCAD which uses CheerpJ to generate a Javascript version of the app that does not require a plugin. CheerpJ was updated to version 1.2 on this site on September 7th. Theoretically, it should only work better now. I was able to open your latest model on Chrome. I also noticed it had the chain displayed. Displaying the chain and/or rear derailleur will cause a noticable slow down in performance. In case this is the issue for you, I've resaved this model to your account. It is an unpublished model, so I won't share the URL here, but you'll find it in your My Designs section.

Of course, BikeCAD Pro being a standalone application that runs on a Mac, a PC or on Linux will be much faster than the free version. I hope you will consider making the investment. The $500 Canadian price is a one time fee that includes updates for life.

Here the same problem with

Here the same problem with the free version: on chromium and firefox the cheerpJ-sign appears, after that a message "loading...", but no further action then. A few weeks ago I tested it a little and it worked well.

Free version load time

Thanks for the feedback. While you may be having some trouble with the free version, it is not, as far as I can tell, a widespread problem. The main point I would make is that it can take a while to load the free app. Often, after the Loading message disappears from the top of the page, the screen may just appear blank for a period of time as the app finishes loading and setting up. Patience definitely helps.

Took a few tries before it

Took a few tries before it even worked and it crashed a few times, I had to reload and start again a few times. Loading time was very different each time I opened the app. It was my first time using the free version so it was a good training and I love the program, but would help if also the free version would be a bit more stable. 

Loading problems on iPad running safari?

ive tried multiple attempts in the past two days without success. Is there something I need to modify? 

Thanks 

Free version on iPad

Even though I have made the free version run on the iPad, it was extremely slow, so I don't want to suggest you invest too much more time trying to run it as even if it does work for you eventually I suspect you will be disappointed with the functionality. I'd suggest trying it on a laptop or desktop computer. For a sense of how the pro version runs, I'd recommend you check out some of the videos in the user guide.

Ok. Thanks

Ok. Thanks

Loading problems

Hi I’m new to this page and I also tried to open the free version of Bicer cad for tow days without success is it actualy working?

Loading free version

Yes. The free version still works both with and without the Java plugin. Running it with the Java plugin is a bit more involved. If you're having trouble running it without the Java plug-in, I'd recommend first of all giving it plenty of time to load, failing that, I'd also try a different browser. Chrome, Firefox, Edge, Safari and IE are all good options.

Experiencing the same problem

Experiencing the same problem as the person who stated this thread. Cannot run Java plugin as it is no longer supported by any reasonably modern OS X browser. The Java-free version gets stuck in "Loading...". Thankful for any advice, I just need to open a model and change a few things, and however nice the full version would be, this one-timer cannot motivate me to spend the money :) Thanks!

Free version on a Mac

I have access to two MacBook Pro's for testing purposes. One is a couple years old and is running MacOS 10.14.6. It took 1:08 minutes before the free version finished loading on Safari and 55 seconds before it loaded on Chrome. In each case I did not use the Java plugin.

I also have access to a 10 year old MacBook Pro currently running MacOS 10.10.3. On that computer, I was not able to get it to launch on Safari, but it took 1:05 minutes to launch in Chrome.

I have a new laptop, and I

I have a new laptop, and I get a completely blank screen after "cheerp loading" message. In the chrome developer panel, there is 1 wrning and 1 error logged : "Access to XMLHttpRequest at 'https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScErDRKZvSy1JAdiRSZfAsjf711VWdS...' from origin 'https://www.bikecad.ca' has been blocked by CORS policy: No 'Access-Control-Allow-Origin' header is present on the requested resource."

I haven't used it before, but I am also looking at rattleCAD, which also has a free version. To be honest, I am probably not going to spend $500 given that I have free access to onshape and fusion360 ...but just so you know that the free version is actually generating errors in the browser, its not  just execution speed issue.

Free version

Thanks for the feedback. The next version of CheerpJ which is the compiler that allows BikeCAD to run in a browser will have WebAssembly support. I'm hoping this might boost performance. In the meantime, site visitors continue to save new bike designs to their accounts using the free version. I actually see the same error that you've reported, but it did not prevent the app from running perfectly well. Again, I encourage you to give it a bit more time to load.

Yes it does work after a

Yes it does work after a while - even with the javascript error, very interesting.  But its very slow on my computer though even after it loads. If I go to threejs.org (graphics library for javascript), all the sample scripts there run very fast (just fyi)

Threejs and Paper.js

Yes, I actually invested a lot of time looking into Javascript graphics libraries. In fact, I spent months manually converting my code to Javascript and rendering the bike using another library called Paper.js. The image below shows how far I got. The top one is the regular BikeCAD image, and the bottom one was what I managed to render in JavaScript using Paper.js.

While all these libraries seem to be pretty impressive, what I found when I used them was that as I added more and more elements to the rendering of the bike, it got really slow. Maybe it was just the way I was going about it, but in the partially completed model above if you wanted to make a change, it took a very long time for that change to update on the screen. Ultimately, the CheerpJ version is faster and more complete. With it, I don't have to manage two separate bodies of code.

Still, it troubles me that the free version doesn't run quicker. For a better sense of what can be done with BikeCAD Pro have a look at the video tutorials in the BikeCAD user guide.

Hello y'all,

Hello y'all,

i'm trying to start the free version without success since two days. Everything worked two weeks ago. I tried it with and w/o Java enabled on MacOS with Chrome and Safari and on Windows 7 with Chrome and IE, nothing worked. CheerPJ initializes, then "Loading" and that's it...

Any ideas what could be wrong?

Running the free version

How were you running it two weeks ago? If you are going to try to use the Java plugin you should be aware that at this point, Internet Explorer is about the only remaining browser that still supports the Java plugin. You'd also need to add BikeCAD.ca to your Java exception site list as described at: bikecad.ca/java_1.8_security.

Of course, it is much simpler to run the free version without the Java plugin. The only downside is that it does take a very long time to load. If you were running it this way before and are having trouble now, I suspect the reason might be that I updated the program last week. You may still have some of the old files in your cache. If you clear your browser cache that should force the downloading of all new files on your next attempt which I trust will go better.

Hello Brent,

Hello Brent,

thanks for the quick reply! 

I have been using it on Mac with Chrome, so i am used to loading times around 1min. Unfortunately clearing the cache didn't help. I installed the chrome extension "CheerPJ Applet Runner" for running Java applets w/o having Java installed but it didn't work either.

Doyou have any other recommendations what could help?

Cheers!

 

Edit: Installed Firefox, doesn't work :(

Free version on Mac

Although my main computer is a PC, when I read your comment, I went to investigate things on a Mac. I tried the quick start on Chrome and was concerned when it hung there for five minutes with no action. I then tried Safari and was relieved when it launched in just over a minute. I then retried Chrome and it too worked in about one minute.

I definitely don't advise using the CheerpJ Applet Runner extension. What that extension does is it takes a standard Java applet and converts the Java bytecode into JavaScript to run on CheerpJ's JavaScript implementation of the Java Runtime Environment. On BikeCAD.ca, when you choose to run the free version of BikeCAD without a Java plugin, we've already got the Java bytecode converted to JavaScript. Therefore, the site is already configured to run CheerpJ more efficiently than could be done with the extension.

To be clear, I recommend using the free version of BikeCAD without a Java plugin. This will employ CheerpJ to run the app. I just don't recommend using the CheerpJ Extension because it would be redundant to do so.

Still not loading...... (10 Nov)

I am having the same experience here on November 10. The page says it is loading, but eventually the "Loading" message stops and a blank white page remains. I just discovered this site and was all excited about the possibilities.....

Firefox - it loaded. :)

I tried loading the php version in Firefox, and that worked. Now on to bike design.... :)

How did you resolve the problem?

Can you explain how to load the "php version" in Firefox?  I'm experiencing the same situation you described above; the free version worked fine if not a little slow before the most recent update, and now it will not load no matter how much time I give it. Doesn't matter which browser I try on either one of my MACs (Firefox, Safari, Chrome, Opera).  Thanks! 

Free version of BikeCAD

PHP is a scripting language used to generate web pages. Every page on this web site uses PHP. I assume they meant to say the CheerpJ version which would be the version that runs without a Java plugin. There is no particular trick to running the CheerpJ version. No plugin's required. You just have to be patient and let it load for quite a while even after the "Loading..." note has disappeared from the screen.

I will continue to investigate what issues might have cropped up since updating the program to version 15. However, aside from having to reload it once on a Mac, I have no other insights to share at this time.

Having the same problem. Just

Having the same problem. Just won't load. Doesn't matter what browser I open it with...

Free version correction

So since last week, not only have I been running an updated version of BikeCAD on the site, but I've also been using an updated version of CheerpJ. It's a pre-release version, but I've been excited to try it because it actually uses WebAssembly in addition to JavaScript so it should run a little quicker. Unfortunately, there was an issue with it that caused errors when certain dimensions were displayed. This shouldn't have prevented anyone from launching either the road or the mountain bike in the Quick Start section of the site, but it would have presented issues when trying to load bikes with dimensions already shown in the Design Archive. This issue has now been resolved, so I'm curious to know what people think.

Back up and running!

Hi Brent, whatever tweaks you made must have made the difference. I'm back up and running with the free version on the first try (Firefox on MAC).  Thanks for being so responsive! Cheers.

It's working!

It's working!

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